5 definitions by nscangal
If you're talking about Lord of the Rings and Star Wars at the same time, you're talking about two different Canons.
by nscangal August 27, 2005
See Mary-Sue. A female fanfiction character who is so perfect as to be annoying. The male equivlalent is the Marty-Stu. Often abbreviated to "Sue". A Mary Sue character is usually written by a beginning author. Often, the Mary Sue is a self-insert with a few "improvements" (ex. better body, more popular, etc). The Mary Sue character is almost always beautiful, smart, etc... In short, she is the "perfect" girl. The Mary Sue usually falls in love with the author's favorite character(s) and winds up upstaging all of the other characters in the book/series/universe. There are several main types of Mary Sue:
Victim!Sues: The Victim!Sue is your whiny, wimpy, pathetic female character who can't seem to do much of anything except cry and get herself into trouble that the romantic interest of the fic has to rescue her from.
Warrior!Sues: The Warrior!Sue is usually loud, obnoxious and (of course) an amazing warrior. She'll usually have some tragic past that led her to become a warrior, and she'll upstage all of the Canonical characters with her mad Sueish powerz.
Mage!Sue: Similar to the Warrior!Sue, the Mage!Sue has amazing stregnth in magic, or has a magical power that nobody else has. She'll usually wind up upstaging all of the magical characters of the series.
Punk!Sue: Also called Noncomformist!Sue or Goth!Sue, the Punk!Sue is usually written by female beginners in the 11-15 age group. The Punk!Sue is loud, obnoxious, annoying and generally the type of person who you'd want to send off to boot camp for six months. The Punk!Sue almost always has angst coming out of her ears and isn't really a bad person, she's just oh!-so-angry at whatever tragic past the author has chosen to give her. The Punk!Sue is based on what the 11-15 year old author thinks is "cool" and wishes she could be. This includes Evil!Sues.
Misfit!Sue: This includes all Sues who are supposedly geeks, nerds, misfits, etc. Usually, the Misfit!Sue doesn't start out as inhumanly beautiful, but winds up getting a makeover and finding out she had the potential to be a guy-magnet (or girl-magnet, depending on the genre) all along. Also includes the "My parents want me to do this but I want to do that and it's not fair!!one!" type of Sue. Usually, this Sue is very bookish and smart, but will find some sort of physical talent nobody expected and become a star as a result.
Another thing to note is that a Sue will usually have a completely off-the-wall name, like "Viquetoria". The more wierd and pretentious the name of the character, the more likely it is that she's a Sue.
Finally, Sues often have wierd, improbable or impossible bloodlines. A secret half-elf child of Elrond and a nameless human would be an example of this. A character who was Dumbledore's grandchild and Tom Riddle's daughter would be another example.
Victim!Sues: The Victim!Sue is your whiny, wimpy, pathetic female character who can't seem to do much of anything except cry and get herself into trouble that the romantic interest of the fic has to rescue her from.
Warrior!Sues: The Warrior!Sue is usually loud, obnoxious and (of course) an amazing warrior. She'll usually have some tragic past that led her to become a warrior, and she'll upstage all of the Canonical characters with her mad Sueish powerz.
Mage!Sue: Similar to the Warrior!Sue, the Mage!Sue has amazing stregnth in magic, or has a magical power that nobody else has. She'll usually wind up upstaging all of the magical characters of the series.
Punk!Sue: Also called Noncomformist!Sue or Goth!Sue, the Punk!Sue is usually written by female beginners in the 11-15 age group. The Punk!Sue is loud, obnoxious, annoying and generally the type of person who you'd want to send off to boot camp for six months. The Punk!Sue almost always has angst coming out of her ears and isn't really a bad person, she's just oh!-so-angry at whatever tragic past the author has chosen to give her. The Punk!Sue is based on what the 11-15 year old author thinks is "cool" and wishes she could be. This includes Evil!Sues.
Misfit!Sue: This includes all Sues who are supposedly geeks, nerds, misfits, etc. Usually, the Misfit!Sue doesn't start out as inhumanly beautiful, but winds up getting a makeover and finding out she had the potential to be a guy-magnet (or girl-magnet, depending on the genre) all along. Also includes the "My parents want me to do this but I want to do that and it's not fair!!one!" type of Sue. Usually, this Sue is very bookish and smart, but will find some sort of physical talent nobody expected and become a star as a result.
Another thing to note is that a Sue will usually have a completely off-the-wall name, like "Viquetoria". The more wierd and pretentious the name of the character, the more likely it is that she's a Sue.
Finally, Sues often have wierd, improbable or impossible bloodlines. A secret half-elf child of Elrond and a nameless human would be an example of this. A character who was Dumbledore's grandchild and Tom Riddle's daughter would be another example.
The character in the HP fanfic was a complete and utter Sue. She moved across the street from Harry. She was beautiful, smart and pretty. They fell in wuv almost immediately. She threw all of the characters out of character and generally upstaged everyone. It was quite obnoxious.
by nscangal July 29, 2005
by nscangal August 27, 2005
1. Noun. A Badfic containing or about a Mary-Sue or Marty-Sam. It usually throws all Canonical characters OOC, or out of character. It's usually characterized by an OC ("original character" or "other character"), although some Suefics turn Canonical characters into Sues and/or Stus.
For an example, go to the Harry Potter section of fanfiction.net, and look at any "Romance/Drama" fic.
by nscangal June 27, 2005
1. Noun. Female counterpart to the Mary-Sue. Also called Gary-Stu and occasionally "Marty Sam". Often abbreviated to "Stu". An annoyingly "perfect" male fanfiction character. He is usually attractive, mistunderstood, agnsty, and often has some sort of tragic past. He is so perfect as to be nauseating. He usually winds up romantically involved with one or more of the author's favorite characters, saves the day, upstages all of the real characters, etc. Marty-Stus tend to be slightly less common than Mary Sues. Often involved in slash stories.
There are three main types of Marty Stu:
a) Classical!Marty-Stu. Think 50s and 60s sitcoms or the beginning of the movie "Pleasantville". These are usually your blonde haired, blue eyed, stereotypically gorgeous, pretty boys. They also tend to be fond of sports and be "jocks" or "preps".
b) Rebel!Marty-Stu. Also known as "Punk!Non-conformist!Marty-Stu", "Goth!Marty-Stu" and "Badass!Marty-Stu". This type of Marty-Stu usually has agnst coming out of his you-know-what and isn't *really* badass, he just wants to be because he's oh!-so-angry about his tragic past. Blah, blah, sob story, mush. This type is often written by teenage girls around the age of 13-15, and is extremely loud and obnoxious. It also includes Evil!Stus.
c) Misfit!Marty-Stu. This encompasses all of the Marty-Stus out there that the authors have made short, scrawny, geeky, etc in an attempt to prove that he's "not a marty-stu!!!one1". Usually has a tragic past where he was bullied and/or abused terribly. This type is usually a bit less obnoxious than the other two. Occasionally, this type will also be an Evil!Stu, but that is very rare. It often includes the "I'm a very sensitive person but my father/parents/brothers/family/society doesn't like that in a boy so I get ostracized"-type Marty-Stu. These are usually the ones that wind up in slash fics.
There are three main types of Marty Stu:
a) Classical!Marty-Stu. Think 50s and 60s sitcoms or the beginning of the movie "Pleasantville". These are usually your blonde haired, blue eyed, stereotypically gorgeous, pretty boys. They also tend to be fond of sports and be "jocks" or "preps".
b) Rebel!Marty-Stu. Also known as "Punk!Non-conformist!Marty-Stu", "Goth!Marty-Stu" and "Badass!Marty-Stu". This type of Marty-Stu usually has agnst coming out of his you-know-what and isn't *really* badass, he just wants to be because he's oh!-so-angry about his tragic past. Blah, blah, sob story, mush. This type is often written by teenage girls around the age of 13-15, and is extremely loud and obnoxious. It also includes Evil!Stus.
c) Misfit!Marty-Stu. This encompasses all of the Marty-Stus out there that the authors have made short, scrawny, geeky, etc in an attempt to prove that he's "not a marty-stu!!!one1". Usually has a tragic past where he was bullied and/or abused terribly. This type is usually a bit less obnoxious than the other two. Occasionally, this type will also be an Evil!Stu, but that is very rare. It often includes the "I'm a very sensitive person but my father/parents/brothers/family/society doesn't like that in a boy so I get ostracized"-type Marty-Stu. These are usually the ones that wind up in slash fics.
The character of the LOTR fanfic was a complete Stu. His parents were abusive, his teachers didn't understand him because he was too smart and so he got bad grades, and his classmates hated him. He was transported into Middle-Earth from the modern world. He had blonde hair, blue eyes, and discovered he was part Elf. He saved Frodo and Sam from certain death at the hands of some Orcs, and proceeded to upstage Aragorn and the others. A classic example of Marty-Stu Badfic.
by nscangal June 27, 2005